John Gibbons, ex-Jays boss, managing San Antonio now
* John Gibbons, who had more wins than any Jays managers but Cito Gaston or Bobby Cox, is now managing double-A San Antonio in his home town, part of the San Diego Padres system ….
By Roberto Angotti
Ex-Blue Jays manager John Gibbons or “Gibby”, as he is affectionately known as by his players and coaches, lives up to the Urban Dictionary’s slang definition of “being an incredibly awesome person.”
The 50-year-old former big league catcher was a first-round selection by the New York Mets in 1980 from MacArthur High School in San Antonio, Tex. Born in Great Falls, Mon. and the son of a military veteran who was stationed at Brooks Air Force Base for 13 years, Gibby moved to San Antonio as a third grader and never looked back.
As a youth baseball standout noticed by local fans and scouts alike, Gibbons and his father would attend Missions games at V.J. Keefe Stadium to watch Los Angeles Dodger minor leaguers Fernando Valenzuela, Mike Scioscia and Steve Sax.
Currently home to the Double-A affiliate for the San Diego Padres and also MiLB’s Minor League Team of the Year in 2011 after winning 94 regular-season games and ultimately capturing the Texas League title, the San Antonio Missions now play at Wolff Stadium under first-year manager Gibbons, who enjoys having his middle school son nearby.
Having spent the three seasons as the Kansas City Royals’ bench coach, Gibbons interviewed for managerial positions with the Seattle Mariners, New York Mets and Pittsburgh Pirates since leaving the Jays, but chose to remain close to home as the Missions’ skipper.
For the one-time big-league manager, a well-traveled baseball mind for more than three decades, the move represented a decision as much about self as sacrifice goes since the San Antonio native and dedicated father need not give up quality family time.
Gibby assumed patriarch duties for possibly the best pitching rotations in Toronto history with Roy Halladay, A.J. Burnett, Shaun Marcum, Dustin McGowan and Jesse Litsch, while juggling a starting line-up which included the likes of Vernon Wells, Alex Rios, Scott Rolen, Aaron Hill, Lyle Overbay and Shannon Stewart.
The native Texan led Toronto for 4 1/2 seasons and is credited for putting together the third-highest win total in team history (behind Cito Gaston, also from San Antonio and Bobby Cox) compiling a 305-305 career record–including an 87-75 campaign in 2006 and a second-place finish in the AL East.
Gibbons spent seven seasons with the Blue Jays, serving as their bullpen catcher (2002), first-base coach (2002-04), interim manager (2004) and manager (2005-08).
He began his coaching career in 1991 as a roving minor league instructor for the Mets and spent a total of 12 seasons in the organization (1991-2001) as an instructor, coach and manager. In his first managerial role in 1995, he guided the Kingsport Mets to the class-A Appalachian League championship with a 48-18 record and as a result was named 1995 manager of the year. Having led his teams to the playoffs four times and winning two championships in 1995 and 1996 with the class-A Florida State League’s St. Lucie Mets, the accolades mounted during his seven-year managerial tenure in the Mets system.
He was named the Eastern League manager of the year and the winner of the Casey Stengel award as the Mets’ minor league manager of the year in 1998 with Double-A Binghamton.
Recently named one of the 15 most controversial managers in MLB history San Diego Padres vice president of player development and international operations Randy Smith believes hiring Gibbons as the San Antonio manager was “a no-brainer.” Smith said, “Everyone we talked to gave nothing put positive reviews,”–including positive feedback from one of the players Gibbons scuffled with while in Toronto.
Smith declined to provide a name, but said the player “was very complimentary” of Gibbons. Smith commented, “A little fire and passion is not a bad thing. We think we got the right man for the job. It doesn’t hurt that he’s from San Antonio, either. That’s a real plus for the organization, to get someone with his experience. I think that we’re real fortunate to get John to lead that staff.”
San Diego Padres General Manager Josh Byrnes echoed the sentiment calling Gibbons “a great addition to our organization.” Byrnes said, “You get someone with his resume … it’s a shot in the arm for us. His knowledge, calmness and competitiveness have all proven to be standout qualities. We are lucky to have him.”
If anyone could vouch for Gibbons’ temperament, it would have to be his long-time friend J.P. Ricciardi, (above with Beane) who roomed with him when both were prospects in the Mets system during the early 80s. After throwing in the towel of his pro ball playing days, Ricciardi transitioned to the front office.
Working as A’s general manager Billy Beane’s special assistant when Oakland began to implement the “Moneyball” system of using statistical data to unearth hidden gems, Ricciardi was able to parlay his A’s director of player personnel position under Beane into becoming the Toronto Blue Jays general manager at the end of the 2001 season.
He handed over the reigns of the Jays’ managerial job off to Gibbons midseason in 2004 after Carlos Tosca was fired. Having built quite the reputation as a bulldog manager for his heated confrontations with players and umpires alike, the veteran MLB player and coach has received a bad rap for his aggressive passion for the game.
Ricciardi adamantly denied suggestions that Gibbons has rage issues. “Is he a hot-head? No, not at all,” he said. “That’s the furthest thing from the truth.”
Currently serving as special assistant to Mets GM (and former A’s boss pre-Billy Beane) Sandy Alderson – Ricciardi remains Gibby’s close friend.
Gibbons recently sat down and answered some questions prior to the All-Star break, at which time his San Antonio Missions were struggling and ended the first half in the cellar of the Texas League south division standings. Since then, the Missions have regained last year’s championship form and are currently leading the division in the second half.
Roberto: How are you doing as the new manager for the San Antonio Missions?
Gibbons: Doing good. you know. We haven’t been playing particularly well, but everyday is a new day, and I always enjoy this group of kinds I have here. When you get a chance to come to the ballpark, make a living doing it, things aren’t all bad.
Roberto: As a catcher, you were the Mets first round selection of the June 1980 draft after playing at San Antonio’s MacArthur High School and earning All-City and All-District honors. You played in 18 major league games between 1984-86 for the Mets and hit .220 (11-for-50) with four doubles, one home run, two RBIs and five runs scored. Having big-league experience, do you believe that your Minor League team benefits from your perspective both as manager and former player?
Gibbons: Well, what it does is you can relate to what these guys are going through. I got drafted high, it wasn’t an easy career, it didn’t last forever. You know, I got there but I spent many years down in the minors so I have been through everything these guys are going to go through. I always told myself that when I got into coaching to not forget how tough it was. It’s easy for me to relate to these guys. That 1980 year that I was drafted, the Mets had three first round drafts that year. Darryl Strawberry was number one, Billy Beane, the G.M. for the A’s was 23rd, and I was 24th. One went on to be a good player, the other went on to be a GM and the other one is a coach. So you never know where you are going to end up.
Roberto: Playing home in Toronto as the manager of the Blue Jays, you were fortunate enough to stand twice as long in other ballparks for the playing of both national anthems.
Gibbons: Every night you would hear two. I enjoyed that, but it got to be a little bit long to be honest with you. You know, I loved my time in Toronto. Good people, it’s a lot like an American city, big city. They treated me very well, a majority of them … Some of them thought, “Here’s a dumb Texan.” At the time, George Bush was in office. Up there a lot of them liked him, so they tied the two of them together — it seemed like. But it was a lot of fun. I got a chance to manage in the majors, and it lasted for almost five years. It’s a thrill I will never forget.
Roberto: Did you and your players have to undergo intensive questioning crossing borders?
Gibbons: One thing about it, if you’re involved in MLB, they know pretty much everything about you -– to get there. Even though you hear stories, people say that customs might be a nightmare. But it wasn’t that bad. We’d go through our own little building. They’d get us through customs pretty quick, and we’d hop on our plane. So you know it could be a hassle sometimes. One or two times we had to ever go through the major terminal like everyone else. And I remember it happened when we had to play the Baltimore Orioles, and maybe it was because we were flying so close to DC might have been the reason. But other than that, Toronto is a beautiful city and they really treated their people good.
Roberto: With young MLB players like Ryan Dempster, Joey Votto and Brett Lawrie along with hot prospects like Ryan Kellogg hailing from north of the border and James Paxton are Canadians making an impact on baseball?
Gibbons: Oh yeah, one thing about those Canadian players that get into baseball — they are really good players! You look at guys like Larry Walker, Justin Morneau, you know what I mean … guys that make it … Jeff Francis, back years ago with Colorado. They’re pretty dog gone good, you know. It’s definitely a proud country. They’re hockey crazed up there … There’s no doubt about it, but they love their Blue Jays. They’re the only team left. They got one team representing the whole country. They’ve been starved for a winner for a while. They’re waiting for another one to come back.
Roberto: How have you adapted your managerial style moving from the American to the National League?
Gibbons: It’s a totally different game. I got so used to it in the AL over there (in Toronto). You know, in the AL with the DH all you’re really worried about is handling the pitching staff. The game, the offence is what it is, you know. In the NL, a lot of things change, and the pitchers need to hit. It’s a different style of game. In the NL the game kind of dictates and forces you to make moves too … depending on the score, whether you have to get this guy out or pinch hit for him or what have you. So it’s definitely a different breed of baseball. I was fortunate enough to be in the AL East, which arguably and probably was the strongest division in baseball with some powerhouses, Yankees and Red Sox. So I have seen some pretty good line-ups. I know one thing about this business, you know, pitching and defense win but you also have to be able to slug a little bit too. So it makes good fun.
Roberto: As a young MLB player, did you ever imagine managing a Major League franchise?
Gibbons: No, one thing I thought regardless of how my career was going to turn out I wanted to get into coaching some day — whether it be at the high school level, pro level. But at the beginning I never thought that I would set my sights on a Major League managing job. Then I got a chance to go back to my original organization, the Mets, as a coach and was in their minors for a few years as a catching instructor. Then I got a chance to manage and really enjoyed it. Had some success with it and one thing led to another. An old roommate, teammate of mine, J.P. Ricciardi ended up getting the GM job in Toronto. He brought me on board. I was a roving coach there for a few years and then he made a few changes and he gave me a shot at managing. So it’s funny how things work out sometimes even things you don’t expect.
Roberto: During the first half of the Missions’ season many of your best prospects have been called up because of excellent play and the San Diego Padres’ MLB leading disabled list. Do you think this may have cost your team the first half?
Gibbons: You know, that’s the name of the game: to get these guys to the big leagues. Winning’s one thing, but also a lot of these guys are so young that we can’t lose sight of developing. The ultimate goal is to harness their skills so when they get to the big leagues they’re good all-around solid players. So we got to keep that in perspective. A number of guys have moved up from this ball club this year, and by that happening it has taken it toll on the team here. But the bottom line is our goal of getting these guys out of here up to the next level and eventually on to the big league team.
Roberto: Your reputation of shuffling line-ups in Toronto has followed you in San Antonio. Why have you switched around your leadoff hitters throughout the season?
Gibbons: Originally we started out the season with Jaff Decker as the leadoff guy because the big league team up in San Diego wanted to see him in that role because they pictured him maybe in the near future fitting that role. So we started that. He was little bit banged up, and he was struggling a little bit so we jumped Reymond Fuentes up there. He did a pretty solid job there, Ideally that’s what type of player he needs to become and eventually we think he will become. But with Dino (Dean) Anna now … Dino, he’s having a heck of year. He’s like second in the league in on-base percentage. He’s hitting over .300, and he’s really one of the tougher outs in the league. So we bumped him up there in that role to set the table for us. By doing that we move Rey down to the No. 9 spot, and it’s kind of like we have two leadoff hitters. He’s further away down there at the bottom, but they both can fill that role for us very nicely. Right now Anna is playing so well, and he’s one of the better players in the league so he earns that spot.
Roberto: Your 6-foot-7 first baseman Nate Freiman is a power-hitting giant en route to a 30-plus home run season. What does the future hold for this young promising prospect?
Gibbons: I tell you what…this kid he keeps getting better and better and he’s got some kind of power. You know he’s the gentle giant (laughter), if you really want to term him correctly. Nate’s a special guy, and he’s having a tremendous year coming off a big year in class-A ball for us last year. It’s kind of refreshing, the kind of the individual he really is. He’s very respectful to individuals, the game. He’s always one of the guys who always does the right thing, you know. I hate to think where we would be right now without him. You know, we see him … he’s going to get better, better and better. When you got that kind of ability with the bat, there’s no telling how far he’s going to go.
Roberto: Recent Texas League All-Star and Home Run Derby Winner Nate Freiman is an octopus defensively who can handle about anything hit or thrown in the infield. Have you any idea how many errors he has prevented while playing first base?
Gibbons: You know, it’s funny … as big as he is and that wingspan he’s got. We tell these infielders all the time: “Don’t bounce the ball over there. Hell, throw it as high as you want … he’s going to catch it. You’re getting your errors by bouncing them,” (laughter) which isn’t very smart—right? No, he really has done a tremendous job for us, you know. One thing about Nate, he shows up to work. He shows up to play everyday, and he’s definitely one of our leaders.
Roberto: Any words of advice for those interested in career as a player or coach in MLB?
Gibbons: Well one thing you know to get on top of this business you have got to work hard. You have got to outwork the other guy. You got to hope for a break, There’s no doubt about it. It’s a tough road so you have got to be dedicated, and you have got to be willing to put in some years. You know, if you want it bad enough, go for it! As far as the coaching end of it, do what an organization expects. Always try to do the right thing. Be fair to your guys. The bottom line is we get the most out of these guys and then if you’re at the right place at the right time you might get a shot to manage in the majors. You never know …